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| Bob Myers |
 Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 6:00 pm |
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Hatunen wrote:
Quote: I hear tell that if I put one of the pills on something like an
anvil and strike it hard with a hammer it will give a rather loud
report.
Yes, you will hear a sound that very closely resembles
that of a hammer striking an anvil. Beyond that, not so much.
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| Kurt Ullman |
| Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 6:00 pm |
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In article <fp2855pmkvkipmd6sjq2b67q5lsp0usbue@4ax.com>,
Hatunen <hatunen@cox.net> wrote:
Quote: toy gun caps is not in the "things that explode" category either
except by some weird stretch of the definition of "explode".
But they do burn rather quickly and hot. I am not sure any more,
but I think they were banned from air freight and were on the list of
prohibited substances way before 9-11. More as a fire hazard.
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| Bob Myers |
| Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 6:00 pm |
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DevilsPGD wrote:
Quote: In message <fp2855pmkvkipmd6sjq2b67q5lsp0usbue@4ax.com> Hatunen
hatunen@cox.net> was claimed to have wrote:
toy gun caps is not in the "things that explode" category either
except by some weird stretch of the definition of "explode".
A roll of caps is more then sufficient to start a small fire.
But then, so are any number of things that are perfectly OK to
take about an airliner.
Quote: As a former boy scout, I can tell you that this was considered
"cheating" but it was nonetheless effective under the right
conditions.
If you had to use a roll of caps to get your fire started, you
were doing it the hard way.
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| Hatunen |
| Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 1:44 am |
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On Wed, 08 Jul 2009 02:40:48 -0700, DevilsPGD
<DeathToSpam@crazyhat.net> wrote:
Quote: In message <fp2855pmkvkipmd6sjq2b67q5lsp0usbue@4ax.com> Hatunen
hatunen@cox.net> was claimed to have wrote:
toy gun caps is not in the "things that explode" category either
except by some weird stretch of the definition of "explode".
A roll of caps is more then sufficient to start a small fire.
So will some greasy rags stowed in your luggage. and they will
start fire sopntaneously, while some caps won't.
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* Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow *
* My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps * |
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| Hatunen |
| Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 1:45 am |
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On Wed, 08 Jul 2009 11:37:59 +0100, William Black
<william.black@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
Quote: Hatunen wrote:
toy gun caps is not in the "things that explode" category either
except by some weird stretch of the definition of "explode".
Place a roll of them on a concrete floor and hit them with a large hammer
and get back to us...
How would you define "explode", particularly in the context of
representing a danger to an airliner.
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| Hatunen |
| Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 1:46 am |
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On Wed, 8 Jul 2009 11:17:28 -0600, "Bob Myers"
<nospamplease@address.invalid> wrote:
Quote: Hatunen wrote:
I hear tell that if I put one of the pills on something like an
anvil and strike it hard with a hammer it will give a rather loud
report.
Yes, you will hear a sound that very closely resembles
that of a hammer striking an anvil. Beyond that, not so much.
So you've tried it, then?
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* Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow *
* My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps * |
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| Bob Myers |
| Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 2:18 am |
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Hatunen wrote:
Quote: On Wed, 8 Jul 2009 11:17:28 -0600, "Bob Myers"
nospamplease@address.invalid> wrote:
Hatunen wrote:
I hear tell that if I put one of the pills on something like an
anvil and strike it hard with a hammer it will give a rather loud
report.
Yes, you will hear a sound that very closely resembles
that of a hammer striking an anvil. Beyond that, not so much.
So you've tried it, then?
I will remain silent regarding the things I may or may not,
in my ignorant youth, have attempted with my father's
heart medication. ;-)
But later on, a little investigation into the composition of
those tablets and the actual amount of active ingredient
contained therein shows why that's not a particularly
interesting thing to do. There's just WAY too little nitro
in each tablet, and what IS there is way, way too diluted
in inert material, for anything...errr....interesting to happen.
One interesting thing you'll turn up in researching the subject,
though, is that the medical use of nitroglycerine traces back
to the discovery that workers involved in explosives production
with nitroglycerine would regularly report blinding headaches,
which were found to come from the minute quantities of
the chemical that they were picking up on their hands, etc., and
accidentally ingesting. Further research showed that a very
small amount of nitro was an extremely effective vasodilator,
which is why it's a popular fast-acting treatment for heart-related
chest pains today. But you'll still note that "headaches" are among
the list of possible side effects on that helpful little informational
sheet they include with your pills.
Bob M. |
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| Kurt Ullman |
| Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 6:08 am |
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In article <im4a55hmolenvp7lv2mqp3equhsjua4c9s@4ax.com>,
Hatunen <hatunen@cox.net> wrote:
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So will some greasy rags stowed in your luggage. and they will
start fire sopntaneously, while some caps won't.
v Greasy rags won't. Linseed oil-soaked rags is the biggie that is
even remotely found on airplanes, but even that is very unlikely.
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Searching is half the fun: life is much more manageable when thought
of as a scavenger hunt as opposed to a surprise party.
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| DevilsPGD |
| Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 7:38 am |
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In message <h32ke7$t31$1@usenet01.boi.hp.com> "Bob Myers"
<nospamplease@address.invalid> was claimed to have wrote:
Quote: DevilsPGD wrote:
In message <fp2855pmkvkipmd6sjq2b67q5lsp0usbue@4ax.com> Hatunen
hatunen@cox.net> was claimed to have wrote:
toy gun caps is not in the "things that explode" category either
except by some weird stretch of the definition of "explode".
A roll of caps is more then sufficient to start a small fire.
But then, so are any number of things that are perfectly OK to
take about an airliner.
True, but few (if any) are allowed in checked luggage. You certainly
can't check matches, for example, although you are allowed to carry them
with you.
Quote: As a former boy scout, I can tell you that this was considered
"cheating" but it was nonetheless effective under the right
conditions.
If you had to use a roll of caps to get your fire started, you
were doing it the hard way.
My group managed to remember matches, which fell under preparedness. |
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| DevilsPGD |
| Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 7:38 am |
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In message <kp4a555b9hcurkiral31tl5bhas61r0u8m@4ax.com> Hatunen
<hatunen@cox.net> was claimed to have wrote:
Quote: On Wed, 08 Jul 2009 11:37:59 +0100, William Black
william.black@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
Hatunen wrote:
toy gun caps is not in the "things that explode" category either
except by some weird stretch of the definition of "explode".
Place a roll of them on a concrete floor and hit them with a large hammer
and get back to us...
How would you define "explode", particularly in the context of
representing a danger to an airliner.
Anything that causes a large enough concussive force to damage the plane
(not the case) or creates sufficient heat to ignite the combustible
material known as luggage that airlines insist on loading onto each and
ever passenger airliner. |
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| Bob Myers |
| Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 8:43 am |
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DevilsPGD wrote:
Quote: A roll of caps is more then sufficient to start a small fire.
But then, so are any number of things that are perfectly OK to
take about an airliner.
True, but few (if any) are allowed in checked luggage. You certainly
can't check matches, for example, although you are allowed to carry
them with you.
Oh, I can think of quite a few things that (a) I could use
to start a fire and (b) are perfectly OK in checked luggage.
Quote: As a former boy scout, I can tell you that this was considered
"cheating" but it was nonetheless effective under the right
conditions.
If you had to use a roll of caps to get your fire started, you
were doing it the hard way.
My group managed to remember matches, which fell under preparedness.
Matches, caps...didn't the Scouts ever teach you any
really useful ways of making fire?
Bob M. |
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| DevilsPGD |
| Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 12:01 pm |
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In message <h33sgo$st7$1@usenet01.boi.hp.com> "Bob Myers"
<nospamplease@address.invalid> was claimed to have wrote:
Quote: Matches, caps...didn't the Scouts ever teach you any
really useful ways of making fire?
Yup, did that too, but once we proved we could get the job done the hard
way, and then figured out that we could justify laziness under
preparedness, there was little incentive. |
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| Kurt Ullman |
| Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 6:00 pm |
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In article <mq8b55da2veoalb2llg3el6im5sq7j59et@4ax.com>,
DevilsPGD <DeathToSpam@crazyhat.net> wrote:
Quote: In message <h33sgo$st7$1@usenet01.boi.hp.com> "Bob Myers"
nospamplease@address.invalid> was claimed to have wrote:
Matches, caps...didn't the Scouts ever teach you any
really useful ways of making fire?
Yup, did that too, but once we proved we could get the job done the hard
way, and then figured out that we could justify laziness under
preparedness, there was little incentive.
And the caps were much more fun...
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Searching is half the fun: life is much more manageable when thought
of as a scavenger hunt as opposed to a surprise party.
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